Problem starting OR

[lpman]

I get this error when I try to run Open Rails, what does it mean?

runactivity.exe : Error : 0 : System.ArgumentException: Texture width or height is larger than the device supports.
Parameter name: width
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Graphics.Texture2D.Validat eSizeParamsAgainstCaps(Int32 width, Int32 height, _D3DCAPS9 caps, Int32 numberLevels, String widthParamName, String heightParamName)
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Graphics.RenderTarget..cto r(GraphicsDevice graphicsDevice, Int32 width, Int32 height, Int32 numberLevels, SurfaceFormat format, MultiSampleType multiSampleType, Int32 multiSampleQuality, RenderTargetUsage usage, Boolean isTexture2D)
at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Graphics.RenderTarget2D..c tor(GraphicsDevice graphicsDevice, Int32 width, Int32 height, Int32 numberLevels, SurfaceFormat format, RenderTargetUsage usage)
at ORTS.RenderFrame.DrawShadows(GraphicsDevice graphicsDevice)
at ORTS.RenderFrame.Draw(GraphicsDevice graphicsDevice)
at ORTS.RenderProcess.Draw(GameTime gameTime)

My computer is a
Dell Dimension 2400

2.2ghz Pentium 4 CPU

2gb ram

150gb hard drive

Windows XP service pack 3

ATI Radeon 9250 PCI card
bios date--2006/04/20
256 mb DDRSGRAM / SDRAM

DirectX9

XNA Framework 3.1 Redistributable

Microsoft .NET Framework (English) v 1.0.3705
Microsoft .NET Framework 1.0 hotfix (KB928367)
Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1
Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 srv pack 2
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 srv pack 2
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 SPI
Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Client Profile
Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Extended

where does the problem lie, and what am I missing?

[OTTODAD]

I get this error when I try to run Open Rails, what does it mean?

At what time do you get this error, when trying to run ORTS with it's Desktop Shortcut icon or later ?

In the case of LATER have you set the ORTS OPTIONS to look like this below ?

O t t o

[lpman]

It does this while the DOS scream is loading.

[longiron]

Could you list what models are in the player consist and what route/activity you're running?
Thanks

[OTTODAD]

It does this while the DOS scream is loading.

That is the DOS window ORTS displays when loading the selected route's activity, which b.t.w. is which route and what activity ?

It starts the same as the one created by my ORTS when loading my Gold-Spike's WAGONS activity:

http://www.otto-wipfel.co.uk/ora/OpenRailsLog.txt

Can you show us all of your log ?

Are you using the same ORTS OPTIONS I have shown in my previous post ?

O t t o

[lpman]

Here is the complete log.
I am running the default activities and consists that came with MSTS as I figure this out.
It happens with any activity I have chosen so far.

Yes to your question Otto, I am using the same ORTS OPTIONS you showed in your previous post.

Doug

[twpol]

The problem is that your graphics card does not support the size of texture used for the dynamic shadows. Please turn off the shadows to run OR.

(We have improved the shadow implementation since V360 and no longer use textures as large as before, so this issue may well not happen in the next release.)

[lpman]

Now I get the activity sound, but the screen is grey.

Doug

[OTTODAD]

Now I get the activity sound, but the screen is grey.

The Radeon 9250 is a low end card and the last Catalyst driver for it shown at ATI is dated November 2006.

Could be that it can not handle ORTS graphics but is good enough for MSTS ?

Have you got any of the latest games or the MS Flight Simulator installed and if so how do they perform ?

O t t o

[lpman]

MSTS is the only game on the computer.

What would be a good replacement graghic card?

Doug

[sniper297]

For Open Rails, any card that supports at least Pixel Shader 2.0. Unfortunately that radeon 9250 apparently only goes up to Pixel Shader 1.4;

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081003164735AA5XRsa

So you need a newer card. Make sure you get the same type, AGP or PCIE, and whatever you buy make sure it says Pixel Shader 2.0 or higher.

[lindsayts]

The problem here is a search on the net shows a Dell 2400 is from around 2004 and only has pci slots. OR is in the end intended for a highish end machine (see the OR web site). The 2400 appears to be a basic machine for its time. Reviews state the machine has a pentium 4 Celeron proc with 512 Mb of DDR333 ram (max ram 2 gig) and NO AGP slot. Unfortunately the machine appears to be well below what is required for OR and upgrading any of the components would very unlikely produce any kind of a meaning full result.

I would say you may have to look at the possibilty of getting a better machine for OR.

Lindsay

[OTTODAD]

Well done, Sherlock !

Did not think of digging that deep !

O t t o

[sniper297]

That's curious, I got a Dell XPS400 from 2005, it has PCIE. Looking at this;

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/ATI-RADEON-9250/

Says the 9250 is 8X AGP, so unless they made a PCI version of that card it would suggest the machine must have an AGP slot. Main thing is before you go buying a replacement card, find out what type of slot it does have for the video card, and make sure the new video card is pixel shader 2.0 or 3.0 or however high you can go for whatever type of slot the machine has. Replacing the whole smash if you can afford it is obviously the better option.The Celeron processor was designed to be cheap so it's really too slow for gaming.

[lpman]

Here is what my service tag lists for the computer and what I (added
)
Quantity Parts # Part Description
1 J0201 Dual Inline Memory Module 256, 400M, 32X64 8K, 184 (upgraded to two 1024 Mb,266Mhz,SDRAM memory sticks
1 J9027 Hard Drive, 80GB, IDE 7.2K, 2MB, Maxtor Calypso (upgraded to150Gb hard drive)
1 P0151 Display, Cathode-Ray Tube, 17, D, E773C, Midnight Gray, Dell Americas Organization(replaced with DELL SE198WFP flat panel monitor)
1 9Y692 Assembly, Heatsink, 2.8GHZ, Grease 1 K1136 Processor, 80531, 2.4G, 128K, 400, Celeron, DECISION ONE... (swapped Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.20GHz)
ATI Radeon 9250 PCI card---bios date--2006/04/20, 256 mb DDRSGRAM / SDRAM

The Radeon is a PCI card, my computer doesn't have AGP slots, but I have one empty PCI slot.

During a Dell chat session the Radeon HD 2600 XT 512 MB GDDR3 PCI Express Graphics Card" was recommended, any comments?