Cannot install ORTS

[Redcoat_1812]

My trainsim dir is C:\TS and i had no problem adding it to OR.

Running Win 7 Ultimate 64bit.

Mike.

[OTTODAD]

I have numerous MSTS MINI copies and none of them is causing a problem being used by ORTS !

All ORTS menu lists could do with sorting in an Array before displaying them !

O t t o

[twpol]

All ORTS menu lists could do with sorting in an Array before displaying them !

I went and fixed the sorting in the development version (both routes and activities), so it'll be good in the next release.

[OTTODAD]

I went and fixed the sorting in the development version (both routes and activities), so it'll be good in the next release.

Thanks a lot, James !

Having as much of everything MSTS like I have that will surely help !

Don't forget the Explore Mode Activities Start and Consists Menu list !

You are very much like my good friend Mike Simpson. He also has an open mind whenever improvement suggestions are being made, his Route Riter is full of.

Take care, O t t o.

[conrail1]

Would you need to do that? Just browse to where it is (C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator) and it works fine.

No you wouldn't, it's worked fine on five different machines that I've tested v128 and v360 on. Three of which have MSTS installed on their own drives completely separated from the OpenRails folder and OS.

[usnret]

Finally, SUCCESS!

What did I do? I made a copy of the MSTS folder to the root directory of my C drive. I forget who exactly suggested that here, but thank you for that!

Attempted to do the ORTS thing, reset the directory, and BINGO! I got it!

Now the question is, why did not ORTS find the MSTS folder in the normal path under MIcrosoft Games??????????????

I'll leave that question to the smart developers who are constantly contributing to ORTS!

Finally, thanks to all you fellows for trying to help this old fellow out! (I'm 81 years young!)

William Putnam
CDR, USN (Ret.)

[twpol]

The current release of OR will not automatically find the MSTS folder on 64bit OSes, something I fixed in the development code. However, if you browse to the folder manually it works, so I honestly can see no reason you could not get it working (unless you selected the wrong folder each time - which seems pretty unlikely!).

[mnjrr]

William,

I am glad you are able to run Open Rails now.

[GaryG]

Hi

Just a thought. I looked at the ORTS exe files Otto listed. It appears he might have a mix of two different ORTS versions in the same directory.

I'm running Win 7 Ultimate and ORTS with no problems but I kept my ORTS versions separate. Could a mix of versions is causing your problems?

In my ORTS v0.360 install I launch ORTS with Menu.exe, not OpenRails.exe as in v0.128. In fact, OpenRails.exe was not installed in my v0.360 directory.

GaryG

[sniper297]

You're welcome, Sir!

"I forget who exactly suggested that", a former US Navy AX, you expect these landlubbers to know how to troubleshoot anything? Sir!

"Would you need to do that? Just browse to where it is (C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator) and it works fine."

One thing I discovered even with Windows XP - I'm providing tech support to a computer clueless guy, I tell him how to open windows explorer and browse to \Program Files, he comes back with "It says I shouldn't be in here". When XP is originally installed, system files and file extensions are hidden, the Program Files folder is also off limits by default. My system is set up to allow me access to any file or folder, but it's not installed that way originally, and I often forgot that a computer newby won't have his set up the same way mine is. I suspect that the Windows 7 X86 folder is the same way, you probably have yours set up to allow changes, but is it that way by default when the operating system is originally installed?

[OTTODAD]

In my ORTS v0.360 install I launch ORTS with Menu.exe, not OpenRails.exe as in v0.128. In fact, OpenRails.exe was not installed in my v0.360 directory.

Strange !

Below is what came with the V.360 I downloaded.

O t t o

[usnret]

"I forget who exactly suggested that", a former US Navy AX, you expect these landlubbers to know how to troubleshoot anything? Sir!

"Would you need to do that? Just browse to where it is (C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Train Simulator) and it works fine."

One thing I discovered even with Windows XP - I'm providing tech support to a computer clueless guy, I tell him how to open windows explorer and browse to \Program Files, he comes back with "It says I shouldn't be in here". When XP is originally installed, system files and file extensions are hidden, the Program Files folder is also off limits by default. My system is set up to allow me access to any file or folder, but it's not installed that way originally, and I often forgot that a computer newby won't have his set up the same way mine is. I suspect that the Windows 7 X86 folder is the same way, you probably have yours set up to allow changes, but is it that way by default when the operating system is originally installed?

I think you are talking to me. But if not, I long ago ran across that issue of "You do not belong here..." message, even back when I had Windows XP. Same issues, I think, exist with Windows7, and it was the first thing I checked into when I first had my troubles.

Saying that, I am looking forward to seeing more of the original MSTS controls and message windows, as well as distant mountains. Last year, visiting my brother in Missoula, MT, I took a route by car to Shelby, and then US2 to follow the BNSF line through Marias Pass. I was surprised to see many similarities, but MSTS does Not have the motel I stayed in at Shelby! I do videocaming in my car, mounted on a special rig, with a Monfroto pan head, and in high definition!

Marias Pass is probably the most beautiful railroad route in America, (save possibly the route through Moffet tunnel and the Colorado River route in Colorado) but unfortunately, I ran into too much weather and low clouds to get the best recordings...

Thank again to you guys for helping me out!

Bill

[twpol]

I suspect that the Windows 7 X86 folder is the same way, you probably have yours set up to allow changes, but is it that way by default when the operating system is originally installed?

Windows XP was the only one to do that, I believe; they removed it in Vista. I don't think it affects the "pick a folder" popup window even in XP though, since that isn't a full Explorer window (it has been a while since I used XP though!). A good point about how we forget about our customisations, though.

[GaryG]

Hi Otto

Strange one indeed! I looked at the .zip and the 360 archive has OpenRails.exe.

I don't know why it didn't get copied into the actual directory. I've been launching ORTS 360
with Menu.exe. My missing file is now installed and I'll see if ORTS runs any better...

GaryG

[OTTODAD]

Hi Gary !

I tested running both and can not see a difference in what either does !

O t t o