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  • GaryG
    1000 Post Veteran
    • Nov 1999
    • 1011
    • Vancouver, BC, Canada.

    #31
    When is an 'error' not an 'error'

    Hi

    Something to keep in mind about most of the 'errors' being reported while Open rails is loading. These 'errors' are usually 'errors' that have always existed, it's just that MSTS didn't look for errors and didn't know how to or bother to tell us even if it saw them.

    I've actually used the older ORTS as a way to look for errors in sms files so I could fix them; a great debugging aid.

    GaryG

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    • thegrindre
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 167
      • Arkansas

      #32
      Just checked the whole .sms file top to bottom and back again. There wasn't much in it and all numbers are ascending in order, top to bottom and left to right. Couldn't find anything askew.
      Got any other ideas?

      Thanks,
      Rick
      At my age, 'Happy Hour' is a nap

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      • kraus
        1000 Post Veteran

        • Jan 2001
        • 1086
        • Madison, Wisconsin
        • General

        #33
        Which route is used in the activity when the error is reported? It may also be stock called for in the activity.

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        • longiron
          1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

          • Jan 2007
          • 1453
          • Just south of NYC

          #34
          Originally posted by OTTODAD
          Having downloaded version 128 just now is seems to work in a fashion, the loading procedure indicating numerous errors.
          Otto,
          Regarding those 'error' messages, you can safely ignore them for purposes of running OR. You should consider these errors as 'informational', rather than 'errors' preventing the game from loading. The file parsing routines in OR are extremely rigorous. In testing, I've found OR 'errored' a certain shape file - where investigation proved that a single poly was untextured - where MSTS just merrily accepted it and didn't display the poly. As a result, OR will identify 'errors' in SMS, CON, WAG, S and SD files that MSTS file handling doesn't inform the user exist. You may want to go back at some time and "correct" the offending file because there is some incorrect syntax in that file as compared to MSTS best practice. The OR 'error' trapping often identifies the exact line in the file to help you locate the root cause of the 'error'.

          If a true 'error' occurs that prevents OR from loading, you will get a pop up error message that the game failed to load, as some have experienced.

          Originally posted by OTTODAD
          Exiting ORTS and doing something else on the Internet AVG-Pro 9 reports that the Runactivity.exe is Malware and had it quarantined. Any comment ?
          O t t o
          It's not unusual that AV software quarantines an EXE file it doesn't recognize. As OR is not a program that any AV company would test compatibility for, I'm not surprized by the behavior - "better safe than sorry" with an unknown EXE file. You can manually indicate to your AV software to ignore specific EXE files as OK.
          chrisvw
          Chris
          "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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          • GaryG
            1000 Post Veteran
            • Nov 1999
            • 1011
            • Vancouver, BC, Canada.

            #35
            "thegrindre", you could be looking at the wrong sms file. The error message isn't listing the shape it was loading when the error was spotted.

            Looking at the pic you posted, it looks like it might have been a sound sms associated with a shape used in a world file rather than an eng or wag sms. This is assuming the last "S" displayed is associated with the error.

            GaryG

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            • thegrindre
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 167
              • Arkansas

              #36
              It's the unfinished Red Mountain Gorge NG route I DLed a few days ago from the library here. The train is all mine.
              I'll look my rolling stock over but I don't think it's that but, who knows... I'm not perfect.
              Rick
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              • sniper297
                9500 Post Veteran
                • Nov 1999
                • 9545
                • Union Grove, Wisconsin, USA.
                • General

                #37
                One other item I can't stress enough, forgot to mention before since to me it's so obvious - DEFAULT DEFAULT DEFAULT. If you're having any kind of problem at all, go back to basics and try a default activity on a default route with default rolling stock. If it won't work with default there's no point trying custom stuff, if it DOES work with default then you know there's something about the custom stuff that's incompatible. Important to isolate causes, to do that start with default.

                At Otto, gotta expect antivirus to have hissy fits - the current ORTS is a base program that has no routes or trainsets, it's using routes and trainsets from MSTS. In other words it's acting like a virus with unexpected executables loading unexpected files from unexpected directions. Once it's more polished and has its own content that problem should disappear, meantime nothing to worry about.
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                • thegrindre
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 167
                  • Arkansas

                  #38
                  Just got done checking every car in the consist including the engine and I still get the same error message.
                  I've tried a couple of different consists and still get that same error message.
                  Guess it's the route.
                  Got any more ideas?
                  Rick
                  At my age, 'Happy Hour' is a nap

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                  • Train-a-Mania
                    1500 Post Veteran
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 1830
                    • General

                    #39
                    Originally posted by longiron
                    Nick,
                    What OS are you using? System Specs?
                    chrisvw
                    Windows XP SP2
                    2.3 GHz Processor
                    2 GB RAM
                    NVidia GeForce 6150SE nForce 430

                    The first public release worked fine on my system.
                    Nick - Creator of the Virtual Railroading Review Show
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                    • thegrindre
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 167
                      • Arkansas

                      #40
                      Nick,
                      I just love your reviews. You have talent for a young man. Looks like TV and radio is for you.
                      Keep up the great work.
                      Rick
                      At my age, 'Happy Hour' is a nap

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                      • kraus
                        1000 Post Veteran

                        • Jan 2001
                        • 1086
                        • Madison, Wisconsin
                        • General

                        #41
                        Originally posted by thegrindre
                        It's the unfinished Red Mountain Gorge NG route I DLed a few days ago from the library here. The train is all mine.
                        I'll look my rolling stock over but I don't think it's that but, who knows... I'm not perfect.
                        I was able to locate the problem with the route. In world file w-012832+014294.w is a forest object with a scale range where the minimum is less than the maximum.

                        ScaleRange ( 1.9 0.8 )

                        The error is resolved by changing this to

                        ScaleRange ( 0.8 1.9 )

                        World file w-012832+014293.w also has a forest with the same problem.
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                        Last edited by kraus; 05-27-2010, 23:42.

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                        • thegrindre
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 167
                          • Arkansas

                          #42
                          GREAT! Jeffery, thanks a bunch!!!
                          Rick
                          At my age, 'Happy Hour' is a nap

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                          • thegrindre
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 167
                            • Arkansas

                            #43
                            I found one other and fixed it and the route is now up and running.

                            Thanks again!!!
                            Rick
                            At my age, 'Happy Hour' is a nap

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                            • TrainFreak
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 1999
                              • 278
                              • Norway.

                              #44
                              Originally posted by SD40R
                              Downloaded V128 5 hours ago but game does not work...
                              Where did you find this download? The download link on their website only says 'downloads currently not available'

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                              • sniper297
                                9500 Post Veteran
                                • Nov 1999
                                • 9545
                                • Union Grove, Wisconsin, USA.
                                • General

                                #45
                                Lucky, I had to go back to PO&N version 8 to find one that was compatible.

                                Query, are the signals supposed to be working at this stage? All mine are dark and the AI traffic is acting funny, stops at the base of every switch before continuing.
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