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  • tcain1
    Senior Member
    • Nov 1999
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    #31
    Otto, the activity I used was my own, it just runs the Acela from Washington DC and New York. Here it is if you want to test with it.
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    • OTTODAD
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      • Feb 2001
      • 32344
      • England
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      #32
      Hi Chris !

      Re. these TDB errors, this is what you said in that post: https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/showpo...8&postcount=34

      Tested three more routes, the default Marias-Pass, the Wupper-Express-11 and my Gold Spike and ORTS loading them stops here:



      The irrKlang.NET2.0.dll is in it's folder and after re-installing ORTS from it's ZIP ORTS is now loading O.K..

      O t t o

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      • OTTODAD
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        • Feb 2001
        • 32344
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        #33
        Originally posted by tcain1
        Otto, the activity I used was my own, it just runs the Acela from Washington DC and New York. Here it is if you want to test with it.
        This ZIP contains only a acelaprr file with no extension,

        What I need are it's *.ACT, *.PAT and *.SRV files.

        O t t o

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        • OTTODAD
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          • Feb 2001
          • 32344
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          #34
          Having got ORTS running again I did another comparison of what my GOLD-SPIKE route looks like driving out of Athol in MSTS and ORTS.

          This is only meant to illustrate how much work there is yet to be done for ORTS to be a better than MSTSBin train simulator, doing all it can do and much of it a lot better !

          And that is only the landscape and does not look at infrastructure, signaling, working road crossings, rolling stock and it's physics, road traffic, operational functionality and viewing, routes and activities editing, which I hope will still be done by the MSTS editors, etc, etc.

          Tried to compare the MSTS Wupper-Express-11 with what it looks like in ORTS and it hung again trying to load irrKlang and had to reboot the computer to get it working again.

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          • longiron
            1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

            • Jan 2007
            • 1453
            • Just south of NYC

            #35
            Otto,
            We have noted that some placed items "float" relative to the terrain. We believe, although not definitive, it is related to how the modeler set the 'center' of the shape file.
            Chris
            "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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            • OTTODAD
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              • Feb 2001
              • 32344
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              #36
              Originally posted by longiron
              Otto, we have noted that some placed items "float" relative to the terrain. We believe, although not definitive, it is related to how the modeler set the 'center' of the shape file.
              Pity that MSTSBin George could not be persuaded to give you a hand with the source code of MSTS and how it deals with shape files !

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              • tcain1
                Senior Member
                • Nov 1999
                • 190
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                #37
                Originally posted by OTTODAD
                This ZIP contains only a acelaprr file with no extension,

                What I need are it's *.ACT, *.PAT and *.SRV files.

                O t t o
                That file is the .apk package file. You must have hidden extentions, it shows up fine on my system. The package file should include the .act .pat and .srv files. The only thing that would be missing is the train which as I mentioned above is Adam Wojcieszyk's Acela.

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                • jovet
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                  • May 2006
                  • 3050

                  #38
                  Originally posted by longiron
                  We have noted that some placed items "float" relative to the terrain. We believe, although not definitive, it is related to how the modeler set the 'center' of the shape file.
                  That looks like a forest region.

                  Each item in a Forest should have its pivot point on the terrain. If that's something that OR doesn't do perfectly yet, that's not a big deal.

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                  • csantucci
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 1999
                    • 856
                    • Torino, Italy.

                    #39
                    Originally posted by OTTODAD
                    Pity that MSTSBin George could not be persuaded to give you a hand with the source code of MSTS and how it deals with shape files !

                    O t t o
                    George didn't put his hands on the graphics engine of MSTS.
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                    • tcain1
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                      • Nov 1999
                      • 190
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                      #40
                      On the PRR there were very few visual anomalies. The only ones I saw, was 1 object in the shape of a dirt piled was oversized, floating and protruding onto the track. The only 2 other things seem to be things just not programmed yet. That is static animations like smoke or birds flying. The other is openings on tunnels going through a hill or mountain. Everything else looked fine up to the point of the error.

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                      • OTTODAD
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                        • Feb 2001
                        • 32344
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by csantucci
                        George didn't put his hands on the graphics engine of MSTS.
                        Did not say that he did, but was able to make MSTS and some of it's Shape files do a lot of things they have not been coded for.

                        Tried running the Bernina route in ORTS and it stopped loading here:



                        Too many Terrtex files, there being 6114 ACE files ?

                        Took out the bernina_pass*.ace and mosaic_*.ace files and ORTS loaded it, albeit most of the scenery not showing.

                        Don't know what it will be doing when trying to display your custom overhead catenary ?

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                        • OTTODAD
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                          • Feb 2001
                          • 32344
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by tcain1
                          That file is the .apk package file.
                          My brain was in Railworks gear and forgot to use TsUnpack, which in any case has many problems trying to unpack APK packages into MINI copies of MSTS, the PRR is one of.

                          Using it to install this MSTS *.APK it tells me that it failed to open the package.

                          Could you ZIP just the ACT, PAT and SRV files this activity uses and attach it to a message ?

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                          • longiron
                            1000 Post Veteran and Moderator

                            • Jan 2007
                            • 1453
                            • Just south of NYC

                            #43
                            Otto,
                            Please check the noted SD files, it's likely they have the following "ESD()" in the SD file which OR doesn't like. It's expecting a value - just put a zero in the brackets. Once the SD files are updated, the "error" will go away.

                            Plus, S files "berm300r10_pb_r_vex.s" and "berm60_r.s" have a missing bracket. You may want to double check them.

                            The # of S or ACE called by a tile is not preventing OR from loading.
                            chrisvw

                            Originally posted by OTTODAD
                            Tried running the Bernina route in ORTS and it stopped loading here:



                            Too many Terrtex files, there being 6114 ACE files ?
                            Chris
                            "True rail fans have two favorite railroads. The B&O and one other."

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                            • csantucci
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 1999
                              • 856
                              • Torino, Italy.

                              #44
                              Otto,
                              to remove the .sd error messages I simply had to delete following line from every .sd file containing it:
                              ESD_Bounding_Box ( )
                              (there are very many in the route/shapes and also in the global/shapes folder) and now the related shapes appear correctly. If you like I can email you the modified .sd files.
                              I asked chrisvw if it would be anyhow possible for OR to accept files with such a line as MSTS does.
                              There is instead no problem in loading all the Bernina terrtex files.

                              To chrisvw:
                              this is an issue related to .sms files.
                              In this simple test stream
                              Stream (
                              Priority ( 6 )
                              Triggers ( 2
                              Initial_Trigger ( SetStreamVolume ( 0.0 ))
                              Initial_Trigger ( StartLoop ( 1 File ( "x_Gem_folle_chiusa1.wav" -1 ) SelectionMethod ( SequentialSelection ) ) )
                              )
                              )

                              you should not hear the sound, because there is the SetStreamVolume ( 0.0 ) statement.
                              The sound is however heard. SetStreamVolume seems not to work.


                              Carlo
                              Last edited by csantucci; 06-08-2010, 13:22.
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                              • OTTODAD
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                                • Feb 2001
                                • 32344
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by csantucci
                                Otto, to remove the .sd error messages I simply had to delete following line from every .sd file containing it:
                                ESD_Bounding_Box ( )
                                (there are very many in the routeshapes/ and also in the global/shapes folder) and now the related shapes appear correctly. If you like I can email you the modified .sd files.
                                Thanks for the offer, but had my UltraEdit32-Pro delete all occurrences of ESD_Bounding_Box ( ) and ESD_Bounding_Box () in the route's Shapes folder's *.SD files and ORTS loaded it O.K.

                                But until a fully working version for ORTS has been released I shall carry on using it's MSTS version.

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