BVE: Blue Screen

[rodman1993]

How do you remove blue screen on the train panel?

[Joao_CG]

RE: Blue Screen

According to my personal experience here, this is caused
by the video card, BVE doesn't seem to fit well on some video cards,
just to mention two well known brands, Graphics Savagge DDR Pro and Nvidia GeForce 4 (all types),
where the BVE graphics seems to be worst even when you upgrade the video drivers to the latest version. Just to illustrate what I'm exactly trying to say, a brief description of my two computers:

-Laptop Pentium 4 1.7 Ghz with a 'poor' onboard graphics display (64 Mb shared),on which BVE 4 runs perfectly and smoothly at the average of 25 FPS, with .Net Framerwork 1.0 installed;

-My other computer, a Pentium 4 2.6 Ghz with a Nvidia GeForce4 6200 (256 Mb), and .Net Framework 2.0, which is supposed to be more powerful than my laptop, runs BVE 4 poorly, with the graphics often stuttering, at the average of 5 FPS!!. In my case, only the trains designed exclusively for BVE 4 shows the blue screen, the formers designed for BVE 2, which are more simple, runs perfectly.

Really dont wan't to discourage anyone, this is only my explanation,
BVE can behave differently according to the video card model you have been chosen.

Best regards,

[ferrovipathe]

RE: Blue Screen

>Really dont wan't to discourage anyone, this is only my
>explanation,
>BVE can behave differently according to the video card model
>you have been chosen.
>
And with GeForce 8xxx, BVE 4 refuse to start, whatever XP or Vista.
There is a mismatch between BVE (Famework?) and Nvidia driver since GeForce4 and driver 84XXXX. And it's going worse day after day.
That's perhaps why many are leaving BVE.....
You have choice: BVE or GeForce (> 5xxx).
I changed my computer for a core duo 2,4GHz, 8800 GTX,....(Vista index 5.3, and it's the cpu the worse): perfect for everything, except BVE 4.

So, Mackoy, please, a new Vista version...., or Opensource.
But by now, BVE is going to die.

[nigelb]

RE: Blue Screen

I have found that blue screen is sometimes caused by the panel.bmp file having values in the transparent area other than R=0, G=0 and B=255. A paint program can fix that. I use ImageForge which is freeware and has a tool to detect the RGB values. If any of them are off by even a value of 1, the panel will not show the transparent parts correctly.

[rodman1993]

RE: Blue Screen

Thank you all

[rodman1993]

RE: Blue Screen

Why would you say BVE will die? Pretty harsh

[ferrovipathe]

RE: Blue Screen

>Why would you say BVE will die? Pretty harsh

Because BVE is not yet compatible with NVidia 8XXX video cards and perhaps Vista.
I change my computer, with a 8800 GTX, and I am no more able to run BVE4, with Vista or XP. Program start, then hang on train's panel.
And the wonderfull work of reschanger (changing resolution) don't change that.

BVE4 got a real problem since new Nvidia Direct 10 Cards were out. And Nvidia's driver don't correct that.
So, choice is BVE or GEForce 8X00, because these are very different from 7xxx.

If Mackoy don't patch BVE4, yes, BVE will die, because nobody will soon be able to run it with Vista, DirectX 10, and Nvidia cards. And who is steel running windows 98 by now?

[mfonda]

RE: Blue Screen

I am still running Windows 98 on one computer for odds and ends, FS98 and BVE programming. I run BVE2.6.3 and FS2004 and much else on a second computer with Windows XP and NVidia G-Force 4. I am not complaining.

[rodman1993]

RE: Blue Screen

Actually i did check if it was 0,0,255 it did not work. The train is the KCRWR_SP1900 and the KCRER_MLR.

[rodman1993]

RE: Blue Screen

Did you try the KCR network? That is what I am having trouble with.

[hongjian]

RE: Blue Screen

Which KCR route are you experiencing problems as all KCR routes available work fine for me. My computer is only a P4 266MHz, with 128Mb nVidia 512Mb RAM!