BVE: ATO/ATC Routes

[miles200]

Hi,

Could you tell me which ATO/ATC routes are out there for BVE 2 or 4

Routes with trains which stop themselves at stations...

I already have tried the Victoria Line for BVE2 and the japanse ATO route for BVE4.

Are there anymore for BVE 2 out there?

[OldSpotter]

RE: ATO/ATC Routes

Have a look at Yokosuka (BVE2) a Japanese line as you can probably guess. You can find a link to it at BVE-Routes.com. It uses ATS-P.

Also the original Uchibo line uses ATS-PN.

Note you will need to annotate .pattern commands in the .csv file to ensure a smooth station stop. eg. .pattern 0;0 will bring the train to a halt if you locate the command close to the .stop at the station.

[RichardH]

RE: ATO/ATC Routes

Can you please tell me where I can get this Japaneese ATO route for BVE4?

Thanks,

[OldSpotter]

RE: ATO/ATC Routes

Sorry - Yokosuka is only available in BVE2

[OldSpotter]

RE: ATO/ATC Routes

Going back to the original question here, it is possible to get any route in BVE2 to run in ATC mode. This is done by setting the safety system number in the station command string to '1'.
See below:-

.Sta x1;x2;x3;x4;x5;x6;x7;x8;x9;x10;x11, Places a station.
x1 = Station Name
x2 = Arrival time in HH.MMSS
x3 = Departure time in HH.MMSS
x4 = Pass alarm. 1 will alert the driver when he or she has passed a station he or she was supposed to stop at and 0 will disable the alert. Can be left blank.
x5 = Sets which side of the track the platform sits on. (-1 for left, 1 for right)
x6 = Sets a signal at the station. 0 will show green, 1 will show red until the train is near the stop marker or there is 23 seconds to departure.
x7 = Can be used to activate a safety system, or left blank. 0 will activate ATS, 1 will activate ATC.
x8 = Plays a sound when arriving at the station (after the doors open). Format: Directory\x.wav. Default directory is BVE\Railway\Sound.
x9 = Minimum stop time in seconds. This will only come into play if the stop is longer than that specified by the arrival and departures or if the train is running late.
x10 = Determines how full the train will be upon departure from this station. Use 0 for empty and 250 for full. 0-100 is best because a more full train (150+) means the passengers are unhappy to begin with and thusly make a very hard job for the driver.
x11 = Sound to play before doors close to depart. Format same as above.

The train editor is then used to enable ATC for the loco/DMU/EMU. Set this to manual so you can switch from ATS to ATC on the train control panel.

In ATC mode the maximum speed is limited to 90kph and the train slows down incrementally as it approaches a stop aspect. In fact there does not even have to be a signal at the station giving you the ATO mode. For some reason I can't fathom the train stops about 300m before the stopping point. Eg if you take the original Uchibo line and run that in ATC you would find the train stopping half way up the platform rather than at the end.

ATC mode gets a bit dull due to the slow speed of the train. In ATS using the .pattern commands you can set a high overall speed eg .pattern 1;160 will give a max speed of 160 kph. The train will then slow down in accordance with the speed limits. eg .pattern 0,75 will drop speed to 75 kph temporarily. I should be associated with a .limit speed sign. At the station you can set .pattern 0;0 close to the .stop.

I've used ATS/ATC on the BVE2 Chou Line with great success. On the Yokosuka line I run a Shinkansen with a maximum speed of 299kph and it slows down and stops at each station as if it were a local. Mind you if you run with random signalling (Using BRR Route Randomizer) you still have to watch your speed as the train simply cannot brake quickly enough as it approaches a red aspect at 299kph! Of course in real life one wouldn't be using a Shinkansen on a ordinary railway line.

I haven't used BVE4 yet. I understand that the ATC/ATS modes are setup with a DLL file. Doubt if you could do much to customise that.

[miles200]

RE: ATO/ATC Routes

Hi,

Thanks for the replys...

Could you explain a bit more specifictly on what i need to do to get ATC working? The reply you wrote has confused me a bit and i'm still stuck.

Many thanks,
Miles

[OldSpotter]

RE: ATO/ATC Routes

It is quite confusing I agree, took me some time to get to grips
with it.

Which line do you want to switch to ATC? I know I suggested
Yokosuka but any should do.

Yokosuka is at http://yokotsuka1001.at.infoseek.co.jp/1107S.html

Say you go to the .sta command in the route (csv) file eg:-

.sta ¼‘åˆä;8.3440;8.3500;0;-1;1;1;;20;0;,

The 7th instruction in the string is ;1; which enables ATC, if this
were ;0; you would only have ATS. You have to set this to ;1; for
every station.

You now need the Train editor which you can find at the Railserve
site - http://www.railserve.com/Computers/BVE/ This site also has
the BRR Route Randomiser link and the Virtual Rail link. At this
location http://www.virtual-rail.co.uk/bvecsvcommands.htm you will
find a description of all the csv commands.

Use the Train Editor to set you traction to ATS with ATC on manual
(you'll find this at the top right hand corner of the Train Editor)

Save the edited train file.

Load the run and with any luck you'll have ATS and ATC available by
switching using the PgUp and PgDn keys.

Is your email address available on the forum? If so will send you a
modifed Yokosuka csv file which runs ATS/ATC and stops at every
station.

[miles200]

RE: ATO/ATC Routes

Ah this makes so much more sense now.

Ye email is miles_saunders(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk


Also is there an English version of the train editor on that site you gave me??


Miles

[J_Legrand]

RE: ATO/ATC Routes

Thanks for the informations OldSpotter, it's looks pretty interessting, I'll try it.

Miles, you can try http://www.trainsimcentral.co.uk/ (misc dls)

[OldSpotter]

RE: ATO/ATC Routes

Do bear in mind that the pattern commands used to control speed will (if set to .pattern 0;0) stop a train whatever the signal aspect might be. I have been using it to try and get accurate platform halt positions.