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  • Stooopid_person
    1500 Post Veteran
    • Nov 1999
    • 1592
    • Planet Stooopid.

    #1

    BVE: Help: Smooth Curves Problem

    >How do I get the curve below to be smooth. The distance
    >traveled between the 25 m is 3.8 m to the left. I have tried
    >using Switch with the distance set at 3.8 and 1.9 for the
    >curve but neither work.

    If you searched the forums, i aske dthe same question and someone gave me a formual for it. I'll find the post for you.
  • Stooopid_person
    1500 Post Veteran
    • Nov 1999
    • 1592
    • Planet Stooopid.

    #2
    RE: Help: Smooth Curves Problem

    Here it is
    [Link Expired]
    Assume opposite track is track 0, your own track.

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    • jsdickinson
      Member
      • Apr 2003
      • 96
      • United Kingdom.

      #3
      RE: Help: Smooth Curves Problem

      That formula is useful in other circumstances but we are the far left hand track. I just need to find the curve width for moving 3.8m over 25m, I think?

      ====================
      James Dickinson
      www.brj.rr.nu - BVE from around the UK.

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      • Stooopid_person
        1500 Post Veteran
        • Nov 1999
        • 1592
        • Planet Stooopid.

        #4
        RE: Help: Smooth Curves Problem

        >That formula is useful in other circumstances but we are the
        >far left hand track. I just need to find the curve width for
        >moving 3.8m over 25m, I think?

        So you are on the straight track? Then the above formula is exactly what you need! You know the distance between the two tracks, so use that formula and calculate the curve radius! Do it reverse! Look at the last post. Where I know the distance and calculating curve radius.

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        • jsdickinson
          Member
          • Apr 2003
          • 96
          • United Kingdom.

          #5
          RE: Help: Smooth Curves Problem

          That I think is what I was after! Thank you sir. Will try this out later, a bit Smooth Curved out, there are too many points in Orpington .

          ====================
          James Dickinson
          www.brj.rr.nu - BVE from around the UK.

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          • Simon_G
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2003
            • 203
            • .

            #6
            RE: Help: Smooth Curves Problem

            Sorry, forgot to add...

            Spreading the curve over 50m, you'll need the offset after 25m: for r=330m this is

            dx = 252/(2*330) = 0.95m

            Cheers
            simon

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            • Stooopid_person
              1500 Post Veteran
              • Nov 1999
              • 1592
              • Planet Stooopid.

              #7
              RE: Help: Smooth Curves Problem

              Using the formula in the link I have gave you,

              >Distance = length * sin( length* 90 / (PI * radius ) in
              >degree.

              3.8 = 25*sin{(25*90)/(PI*r)}
              3.8 = 0.42261{2250/PI(r)}
              3.8 = 950.8725/PI(r)
              3.8PI(r) = 950.8725
              11.938r= 950.8725
              r = 79.65

              Try using 80m radius.

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              • smikes
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2003
                • 191
                • Virgina, USA.

                #8
                RE: Help: Smooth Curves Problem

                From the looks of what you want to do with one 25m curve piece,you can find the right curve radius but you also have to put the piece before the curve at the correct angle to the piece after the curve.Your trying to make a curve thats in one direction look good on both ends,but for it to look good as you've got it in the picture you curve right coming off the first piece and then left to get to second piece.Try moving the end before the curve more to the right and tweaking that and the curve until it looks good.

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                • Simon_G
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 203
                  • .

                  #9
                  RE: Help: Smooth Curves Problem

                  Hi James

                  As you say - nice curve; wrong direction!

                  Try starting from the other end of the curve, by the points, and working back towards the diamond.

                  If we call the x-offset through the platform X, then the offsets in the curve will be:

                  At the points: X
                  25m back from the points: X - 0.95m
                  50m back from the points: X - 3.8m

                  Cheers
                  Simon

                  PS - Don't worry at this stage if the result doesn't join up neatly with the diamond, you can work on that later.

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                  • StephenCross
                    Member
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 26
                    • Sydney, NSW, Australia.

                    #10
                    RE: Help: Smooth Curves Problem

                    Hi James,

                    If this is all you need to be fixed, I will put the Northern Line aside for a few minutes and help you out. So then send it to me and I will do it for you. I know track laying is a pain, but with the TrackViewer it has become a tad easier.

                    Bye for now,

                    Stephen.

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                    • TomBoyRacer
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 273
                      • Grimsby, N.E Lincs.

                      #11
                      RE: Help: Smooth Curves Problem

                      could you tell me:
                      how far apart your tracks are (normal spacing)(i'm guessing 6 foot?)
                      "-------" between platforms
                      how far to the right your points go
                      how far from the points to the start of the platforms.
                      i should be able to come up with something tomorrow

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                      • Simon_G
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 203
                        • .

                        #12
                        RE: Help: Smooth Curves Problem

                        James you have PM!

                        Simon

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                        • jsdickinson
                          Member
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 96
                          • United Kingdom.

                          #13
                          RE: Help: Smooth Curves Problem

                          Guys the smooth curve man (Stephen Cross) is on the case for the whole route! But thanks very kindly for your offers.

                          ====================
                          James Dickinson
                          www.brj.rr.nu - BVE from around the UK.

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                          • StephenCross
                            Member
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 26
                            • Sydney, NSW, Australia.

                            #14
                            RE: Help: Smooth Curves Problem

                            Hi James,

                            The whole route (at least to Orpington Sidings) is complete. You might need to drive the whole route a couple of times to make sure I haven't stuffed up the sounds or track placements.

                            James your route looks great and I can't wait to see it finished. Check out what I have done and let me know if any changes need to be made or additional trackwork added.

                            PS Where should I send the files too?

                            Bye for now,

                            Stephen.

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                            • jsdickinson
                              Member
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 96
                              • United Kingdom.

                              #15
                              Help: Smooth Curves Problem

                              How do I get the curve below to be smooth. The distance traveled between the 25 m is 3.8 m to the left. I have tried using Switch with the distance set at 3.8 and 1.9 for the curve but neither work.

                              In need of help desperatly!

                              ====================
                              James Dickinson
                              www.brj.rr.nu - BVE from around the UK.

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