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  • alex_farlie
    New Member
    • Apr 2003
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    #1

    BVE: Ideas....

    (The Forums don't have a light bulb icon yet so this goes in General)


    Some ideas for conventional an unconventional routes..

    You might want to use them as the basis for trying to get an
    entry in respect of the 2 Mile Challange (the details of which
    are on Wulf site.)

    OK here goes with some suggestions...

    - Ye Olde Stream Contrivance.
    - It is convetionaly thought that the steam engine is a modern
    (18th Century) invention However some recnty historical investigations have suggested that such a device may have been
    in use a lot earlier in coal based economies of North East England
    and in parts of Germany as early as 2 centuries before.

    - Finicular railways...
    - Difficult to do in BVE but not impossible
    (OF course a furnicular line for a monastry worked on water
    power is more plausible than the above.)
    Not sure how you would do the power settings in BVE though ;-)

    - O Rileys Mine - The 'Tradiatonal' Mining line..
    In terms of carts- Prop supported tunnels etc..
    Of course if your wanting a fantsay line then
    Dwarf gold mines and so on come into it.
    (I'd called the sceanrio O-Rileys mine in case
    anyone wanted to do a fnatays Irish line and
    some little green men;-) )

    - Drax Deep - Would need research but this could be and acurate
    potrayal of Modern mineral/solid fuel extraction
    operations such as those used by the former
    Britsh Coal/NCB operations in the UK.
    (Drax being the name of one such site in W Yorks?)

    So far a number of countries have featured in BVE but I haven't yet
    heard of routes showing
    India, Russia, China, The Netherlands, Switzerland, Wales or Man
    (all of ehich are great railway nations for various reasons

    And there is STILL no Toytown express.. :-(

    And one final idea come from the world of current affairs!..

    It is 2004 and reconstruction of the infrastructure in a
    certain gulf state is continuing. In order to improve the
    oppurtuinites in the captial, the transportation of the captials
    6 million citens around the city is to be made a priority.

    A possible option is the construction of Subway.

    So does anyone have any ideas what it might look like
    or possible routes?

    Current thinking sugessts a US involvement in reconstruction but
    that doesnt nessacrily mean the subway will use Amercian standards
    or practice. European or even Russian enginerring and technology may be used instead given previous involvment in the region.
    (Alternativly the reconsturction body may look at examples
    elsewehere in the region such as Cairo or Theran.)


    The traction 'power' would of course be electric,
    but in a country with oil it seems sensible that
    any generating station would be oil fired as opposed
    to other availble power sources like wind or Hydro-electric
    schemes..

    Any thoughts on what the Tigris Banks Subway might look like?

    (Unless of course anyone can think of a more suitable Arabic
    name for a transit system in Bagdhad.)

    Alex


    (Owing to the number of BVE forums now operating permission is granted
    for others to propoate this message to those forums provided it remains intact and this notice is not removed.)








  • Stooopid_person
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    • Nov 1999
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    • Planet Stooopid.

    #2
    RE: Ideas....

    You sure have lots of ideas!

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    • IRT_BMT_IND
      Member
      • Apr 2003
      • 51
      • Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

      #3
      RE: Ideas....

      A bahgdad subway. that would be cool. (in the BVE version, put up ads in the stations for al-jazeera and EL-AL)

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      • JulieADriver
        Member
        • Apr 2003
        • 58
        • Montréal, Québec, Canada.

        #4
        RE: Ideas....

        >A bahgdad subway. that would be cool. (in the BVE version,
        >put up ads in the stations for al-jazeera and EL-AL)

        I don't think El Al ads (or anything Israeli) would be a wise idea...

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        • D2UK JLE Line
          Member
          • Apr 2003
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          #5
          RE: Ideas....

          hahahah lol toytown express...
          is that the one out of noddy by any chance?

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          • mailer_diablo
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2003
            • 149
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            #6
            RE: Ideas....


            >
            >Probably be ads for Coca Cola though...
            >they seem to get EVREYWHERE :-)
            >

            For the Middle East, maybe it's Mecca Cola...:P

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            • Stooopid_person
              1500 Post Veteran
              • Nov 1999
              • 1592
              • Planet Stooopid.

              #7
              RE: Ideas....

              Hey! You got your old username back!

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              • mailer_diablo
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2003
                • 149
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                #8
                RE: Ideas....

                Yeah, my second account had login problems again, so this is the third one. (It's starting to annony me x()

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                • jgulbis
                  New Member
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 18
                  • Canada.

                  #9
                  RE: Ideas....

                  After reading some of your ideas yesterday, I came up with one of my own: The Roman Subway, circa 100 AD. The cars wouldn't be powered of course, they would be pushed out of the stations by Christian slaves that you could hear being whipped and ordered to push when the train is ready to depart. The tunnel after the station would have a downhill grade to aid the train's acceleration. The brake mechanism would probably consist of a lever that would press some type of brake shoe against one of the wheels, so the brakes would be extremely weak; there would be a steep uphill grade to aid in braking, but if you don't brake in time, you would end up going right through the next station, or if you brake too early, you would end up being stuck in the tunnel and they would have to bring the horses into the tunnel via an access tunnel to pull the train up to the next station. Since this can't be replicated in BVE, you'd have to restart the route and try again, so this route would be quite challenging to drive. The tunnel and station walls would consist of big blocks of carved stone with Romanesque arches in the ceilings and columns holding up the ceilings in the stations. The stations would be lit by torches mounted in the walls for night-time routes and by skylights in the ceilings for day routes. The cars would be made of wood and when the train accelerates, you could hear the wheels squeak and rumble along the track, but instead of conventional track, the train would run in a wide groove along the floor, or maybe some primitive sort of track made of wood and lined with steel.

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                  • IRT_BMT_IND
                    Member
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 51
                    • Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

                    #10
                    RE: Ideas....

                    >After reading some of your ideas yesterday, I came up with
                    >one of my own: The Roman Subway, circa 100 AD. The cars
                    >wouldn't be powered of course, they would be pushed out of
                    >the stations by Christian slaves that you could hear being
                    >whipped and ordered to push when the train is ready to
                    >depart. The tunnel after the station would have a downhill
                    >grade to aid the train's acceleration. The brake mechanism
                    >would probably consist of a lever that would press some type
                    >of brake shoe against one of the wheels, so the brakes would
                    >be extremely weak; there would be a steep uphill grade to
                    >aid in braking, but if you don't brake in time, you would
                    >end up going right through the next station, or if you brake
                    >too early, you would end up being stuck in the tunnel and
                    >they would have to bring the horses into the tunnel via an
                    >access tunnel to pull the train up to the next station.
                    >Since this can't be replicated in BVE, you'd have to restart
                    >the route and try again, so this route would be quite
                    >challenging to drive. The tunnel and station walls would
                    >consist of big blocks of carved stone with Romanesque arches
                    >in the ceilings and columns holding up the ceilings in the
                    >stations. The stations would be lit by torches mounted in
                    >the walls for night-time routes and by skylights in the
                    >ceilings for day routes. The cars would be made of wood and
                    >when the train accelerates, you could hear the wheels squeak
                    >and rumble along the track, but instead of conventional
                    >track, the train would run in a wide groove along the floor,
                    >or maybe some primitive sort of track made of wood and lined
                    >with steel.

                    They wpould probably not be pulles by slaves, they would be puylled by a chain of some sort


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                    • JulieADriver
                      Member
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 58
                      • Montréal, Québec, Canada.

                      #11
                      RE: Ideas....

                      >They wpould probably not be pulles by slaves, they would be
                      >puylled by a chain of some sort

                      No, they would be pulled by slaves. The Romans were not kind to their enemies. }>

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                      • jgulbis
                        New Member
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 18
                        • Canada.

                        #12
                        RE: Ideas....

                        They wouldn't be pulled, the slaves would be at each station and when the train would be ready to depart, they would get behind the train and push it into the tunnel where the downhill grade would accelerate the train fast enough to roll to the next station.

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                        • JulieADriver
                          Member
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 58
                          • Montréal, Québec, Canada.

                          #13
                          RE: Ideas....

                          I wonder how you say "Heave, HO!" in Latin...

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                          • IRT_BMT_IND
                            Member
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 51
                            • Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

                            #14
                            RE: Ideas....

                            If the roman subwya idea uses downgrades to power the trains, how would the trains get back up the hills at the end of the line.

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                            • mailer_diablo
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 149
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                              #15
                              RE: Ideas....

                              A simple solution is to make it a circle loop. :-)

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