what is Trainmaster 4.3?

[Heruraha93]

Hi! i came across Trainmaster 4.3 in a site - a rail catalog site, and it has a little description about it, but otherwise i cant find any information on it. I havent found a review of it anywhere either.
Might someone here be familiar with Trainmaster 4.3 and be able to tell me what it actually is - is it a simulation of the Trainmaster loco? does it have many routes? is there AI traffic and activities one has to complete?

[crstagg]

https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/content.php?529-TrainMaster-4

[Heruraha93]

https://www.trainsim.com/vbts/conten...-TrainMaster-4

thanks for teh link, i had been looking for "trainmaster 4.3" in my search - better to have just looked for trainmaster

[NorthernWarrior]

TM4 was regarded as quite revolutionary when released, but the release timing couldn't have been worse for the original publisher (Corporate Strategies) as it coincided with MS' first announcement they were producing MSTS.

Last time I tried (under Win 7) it just about ran, but looked very dated compared to what we have now. There is no graphic of the train or any moving AI, if you spin your head round in the cab view you just see the track moving away behind you. Track was floating about 2ft above the terrain. Game was coded when most people were still using 3DFX Voodoo cards in their PC's!

Run 8 is probably the spiritual successor to the title, albeit made by a completely different company.

[Heruraha93]

TM4 was regarded as quite revolutionary when released, but the release timing couldn't have been worse for the original publisher (Corporate Strategies) as it coincided with MS' first announcement they were producing MSTS.

Last time I tried (under Win 7) it just about ran, but looked very dated compared to what we have now. There is no graphic of the train or any moving AI, if you spin your head round in the cab view you just see the track moving away behind you. Track was floating about 2ft above the terrain. Game was coded when most people were still using 3DFX Voodoo cards in their PC's!

Run 8 is probably the spiritual successor to the title, albeit made by a completely different company.

thanks also forthis info - i like old and comparatively dated games so trainmaster gets my interest there, and even though there is no AI that is okay, it sounds like it offers a variety of routes and trains with different physices for each

[seagoon]

.....it sounds like it offers a variety of routes and trains with different physices for each

There are several route files available, each of which is bi-directional.
In its day Trainmaster was highly regarded when it came to replicating the physics of train operation but, as Vern says, MS Train Simulator came along and blew it away overnight.
But I still have it installed on one of my laptops which has Windows XP as the O/S.

[NorthernWarrior]

Bruce - good to hear from you. Must admit, I was getting worried with all the news reports re the wildfires in NSW and hoping you weren't in the middle of it. As the news now seems to be dominated by the Chinese super-virus, hopefully things are now settling down over there.

Back OT, TM4 had a chequered history as CSI/Bob Leilich subsequently sold it out to another company who then, despite promises they made, turned their backs on the hobby side of things in favour of developing for the professional user.

[Radmaximus]

There are several route files available, each of which is bi-directional.
In its day Trainmaster was highly regarded when it came to replicating the physics of train operation but, as Vern says, MS Train Simulator came along and blew it away overnight.
But I still have it installed on one of my laptops which has Windows XP as the O/S.

Seagoon would you happen to have the installation password for that. I have a version from 2000 but I can't install it as I have lost that over the years.

[seagoon]

Seagoon would you happen to have the installation password for that. I have a version from 2000 but I can't install it as I have lost that over the years.

Yeah, it'll be here somewhere.....I'll dig around in my collection of old games, just so long as I can clear away the dust and cobwebs without being bitten by a spider!

Best bet is tomorrow morning (my time....it's just coming up to 10:30 PM here).

I have no qualms about copyright......as has been mentioned in this thread, the originator threw TM4 away two decades ago.

[seagoon]

Okay, what I have unearthed is as follows......

I have my original TrainMaster v4.05 CD. Note....it's version 4.05.
The manual has a "version 4.0" sticker on the front but the ReadMe on the CD says "February 2001, version 4.05".

I have just tested the CD by installing it on this computer (Windows 10) and it runs fine and all the on-screen info during installation refers to v4.05.

So the password for that is 17276424........but I can't guarantee that it will work for your installation.

[NorthernWarrior]

Wasn't there an update to the control stand graphic at some point? I searched in vain for it a little while ago because as it stands the cab graphic is the very crude image from the original TM3.

[seagoon]

Yes, Vern.
That introduced the "cab front" mask....providing a much more realistic appearance of an SD-type cab.
Just a small update but giving greater immersion.
I've got it here if you want it.

[NorthernWarrior]

Yes, Vern.
That introduced the "cab front" mask....providing a much more realistic appearance of an SD-type cab.
Just a small update but giving greater immersion.
I've got it here if you want it.

I'll PM you my email address Bruce, thanks.

[seagoon]

I'll PM you my email address Bruce, thanks.

All fine, Vern.
Let me know how it pans out.

[seagoon]

Just one minor thing......

If you pan the view from the as-loaded straight-ahead position then you immediately lose the window mask.....and it can't be regained in that session.
The control stand graphic is fine but the black mask that gives the impression of a window just disappears.